Probable Collapse Sequence for WTC 1:Collapse Initiation
• The inward bowing of the South wall induced column instability, which progressed rapidly horizontally across the entire South face.
• The South wall unloaded and tried to redistribute the loads via the hat truss to the thermally weakened core and via the spandrels to the adjacent East and West walls.
• The entire section of the building above the impact zone began tilting as a rigid block (all four faces; not only the bowed and buckled South face) to the South (at least about 8º) as column instability progressed rapidly from the South wall along the adjacent East and West walls.
• The change in potential energy due to downward movement of building mass above the buckled columns exceeded the strain energy that could be absorbed by the structure. Global collapse then ensued.
PROBABLE???
prob·a·ble adj.
1. Likely to happen or to be true. As in: "The woman in the photo above, probably did not have to die."
2. Likely but uncertain; plausible.
And can anyone explain what "global collapse" means besides "cover-up"?
*Not In Scientific Terms.
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Personally, I love how the fires were so intense that they cause the steel to weaken, and yet that person on the 94th (?) floor doesn't seem to be on fire.
Just curious, but does NIST explain that one?
We think you've only "proven" one thing here...
Currently, the official account of the Building 7 collapse is the FEMA report of 2002 that proposed that fires, started by falling debris from the North Tower collapse, caused a local failure and then a global collapse in a similar way to the Twin Towers. It also stated that "the specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analyses are needed to resolve this issue."
The full investigation by the NIST has yet to be published:
it is due in late 2007;
NIST have said that they had to prioritize their investigations and chose to investigate the collapse of WTC buildings 1 and 2 first, and then building 7
One of the ways in which the 7WTC FEMA investigation was hampered was by the destruction of evidence. Almost immediately following the disaster, the structural steel was removed from the site and placed on ships headed for Asia to be recycled.
The New York Times reported on 12/25, 2001 that, "In calling for a new investigation, some structural engineers have said that one serious mistake has already been made in the chaotic aftermath of the collapses: the decision to rapidly recycle the steel columns, beams and trusses that held up the buildings. That may have cost investigators some of their most direct physical evidence with which to try to piece together an answer…. Dr. Frederick W. Mowrer, an associate professor in the fire protection engineering department at the University of Maryland, said he believed the decision could ultimately compromise any investigation of the collapses. 'I find the speed with which potentially important evidence has been removed and recycled to be appalling,' Dr. Mowrer said…. Interviews with a handful of members of the [FEMA funded] team, which includes some of the nation's most respected engineers, also uncovered complaints that they had at various times been shackled with bureaucratic restrictions that prevented them from interviewing witnesses, examining the disaster site and requesting crucial information, like recorded distress calls to the police and fire departments."
Even if one accepts the Bush administration’s official version of the events of that day, there were still compelling reasons to study the evidence. The engineering and construction community could have greatly benefited from a thorough examination of the structural steel. Prior to September 11th, there had never been a fire-induced collapse of a steel framed building.If Building 7 did actually collapse due to fire and falling debris, then a careful examination of the evidence would certainly be warranted; if for no other reason than to learn some valuable lessons about the safety of high-rise buildings in general. Destroying evidence of a disaster of this magnitude is unprecedented. The fact that it occurred raises questions about the motives of those involved in making the decision.
Congratulations on getting rid of the kkkonservatives that were clogging up the tubes here. What a sorry bunch they were.
Not all the conseratives are gone. You must be disappointed because as a LALALALiberal you can't stand a different opinion or view.
Oh, and by the way, MS have you left the country yet, as you claim you were going to do?
Name calling does not constitute a very informed "opinion,"
Hey, lee, different opinions are fine with me as long as they're SUPPORTED BY FACTS. Got any? Didn't think so.
Shoes: If name calling (& just what "name calling" are you talking about??),does not constitute a very informed "opinion", then you & I must be in the same boat - with you being the captain and MS your assistant.
MS: You are not interested in the facts- only theories you can't seem to prove. When you read the facts you only disregard them. And again, have you left this God forsaken country yet?
Facts prove that 9/11 was and inside job, see our first posting here.
Where are the "facts" supporting the government's "theory," if you look, in the end, they don't exist.
Only opinions.
Do you think I haven't seen your "posting"? Can't you get it through your thick skull that not everyone that reads your postings believes them.
Where are the facts, you ask. Right in front of you face but you refuse to believe them.
The only ones with opinions and theories (that after years still cannot prove) are you truFERS.
This is very strange, lee. Why are you so worried about whether or not I've left the country? Are you concerned that you're going to miss me? Don't be -- I can get online from most anywhere in the world. Made your day, huh?
PS: More good news -- stayhungry should be back from Paris Thursday! Woo-hoo!!
Where are the facts, you ask. Right in front of you face but you refuse to believe them.
Where's the final NIST report on 7WTC then, Lee? what's taking them SOOOOOO long?
** Violence in Iraq is down by 50%.
** Civilian casualties in Iraq are down by 60%.
** Baghdad casualties are down by 75%.
** Basra violence is down by 90%.
** Terrorist attacks in Iraq are down by 80%.
** IED attacks down by 55%.
** Average daily attacks down by 42%.
** Foreign insurgent flow into Iraq down by more than 50%
** Suicide bombings down 70% since March.
** Foreign Terrorist flow into Iraq down by 50%.
** Diala Province violence down by 68%.
"Phony war on Terror" Anyone who would say that is not very smart.
Again, repeat after us...
"Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11!" Again,"Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11!" Aqain, "Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11!" Now, just keep repeating it until it sinks in and stays...
Thanks
Nice stats there, um, "anonymous" (wink, wink). Where'd you get those, Sean O'Limbaugh?
MS- Hardly worried about you leaving the country. Only inquiring because YOU are the one that said on one of your comments here that you were out of here because of your disgust for this country. All talk I'm assuming because you know this IS the best place to be.
And what's up with the "anonymous" (wink, wink) comment. I'm sure in your little "conspiracy" mind you think either I or LB wrote and signed anonymous.However, neither one of us has a problem attaching our name of what we believe. You just can't stand it that someone else has disagreed with you.
Where do you get your news MS - CNN (Corrupt News Network, Comedy News Network, ClintonNewsNetwork - your choice).
You must be thrilled that Stayhungry will be back. Now he can rejoin the Fab Four (you, Shoes, Shirley & Nicole) and your little anti-America, anti-Bush, it's always someone else's fault, always the victim, the racism excuse for everything, blah, blah, blah, group and you can once again be the united F'd Up Five.
ain't me...it's my other half. You dumb asses think a brick and a plastic cup equate to a 110 story building. Morons...
Physics is physics, facts are facts.
Couldn't stay away?
Columns far outpaced the collagse of the buildings. Not only are columns falling faster than the buildings but also falling faster than debris cloud which is ALSO falling faster than the buildings. Proving that buildings fell well BELOW free fall speed.
Not ONE person trapped INSIDE the towers complained of dusty air burn on their skin. Trees were left green around the towers. Paper floated around ground zero without being burned.
How do you explain the above paragraph?
"Columns far outpaced the collagse of the buildings. Not only are columns falling faster than the buildings but also falling faster than debris cloud which is ALSO falling faster than the buildings. Proving that buildings fell well BELOW free fall speed."
After reading this several times, it makes absolutely no sense and does not answer the basic questions HOW or WHY the floors BELOW the damaged ones collapsed and why a building would collapse INTO the path of most resistance?
Keep trying...
"Not ONE person trapped INSIDE the towers complained of dusty air burn on their skin. Trees were left green around the towers. Paper floated around ground zero without being burned.
How do you explain the above paragraph?"
How about, all together now,
CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!
Do the "cup and brick experiment", Lee.
You'll see for yourself!
Shoes, google "free fall speed" where you can read what other "experts" have to say regarding debunking the conspiricies.
And do you really believe that a simple "cup & brick" experiment explains everything? You are comparing that to giant skyscrapers hit by airplanes?
"And do you really believe that a simple "cup & brick" experiment explains everything? You are comparing that to giant skyscrapers hit by airplanes?"
Yes! And I think if you try it, you will also question the "official theory" of the WTC collapse.
Try it. Then decide for YOURSELF.
Here's what we get when we Google "Free Fall Speed"
In order for the tower to have collapsed "gravitationally", as we've been told over and over again, in the observed duration, one or more of the following zany-sounding conditions must have been met:
* The undamaged stories below the impact zone offered zero resistance to the collapse
* The glass and concrete spontaneously disintegrated without any expenditure of energy
* On 9/11, gravity was much stronger than gravity
* On 9/11, energy was not conserved
However, none of these physics-violating conditions can be accounted for by the official government conspiracy theory of 9/11, nor by any of the subsequent analyses designed to prop up the official theory of 9/11.
Bottom line: the government/PBS/PM/SA explanation for the WTC collapses fails the most basic conservation-of-energy reality check. Therefore the government/PBS/PM/SA theory does not fit the observed facts; the notion of a "pancake collapse" cannot account for what happened. The "pancake collapse theory" explanation is impossible, and thus absurd.
It is utterly impossible for a "gravitational collapse" to proceed so destructively through a path of such great resistance in anywhere near free-fall times. This fact debunks the preposterous contention that the observed WTC collapses can be blamed solely upon damages resulting from aerial assaults: the unnaturally-brief durations of the highly destructive top-down collapses reveal that the towers did not disintegrate because they were coming down, but rather they came down because something [else] was causing them to disintegrate.
The purported "gravitational collapse" (video) of World Trade Center building 7, which was hit by zero aircraft, and which also vertically collapsed in within a second of free-fall-time-in-a-vacuum later that same day, similarly fails this same conservation-of-energy analysis.
The explanation for how and why so many highly-accredited and credentialed people all so miserably failed to check the "pancake collapse" theory, by giving it this basic reality check, is beyond the scope of this simple physics discussion.
http://tinyurl.com/ccwyj
This is worth repeating:
This fact debunks the preposterous contention that the observed WTC collapses can be blamed solely upon damages resulting from aerial assaults: the unnaturally-brief durations of the highly destructive top-down collapses reveal that the towers did not disintegrate because they were coming down, but rather they came down because something [else] was causing them to disintegrate.
Just foundthis site and have been readings some of the articles. Are you people from a another planet? You don't really believe this garbage do you? If so, that's really funny. This has got to be satire.
Kudos, to the last comment. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!
Those 66 commandments of the libs. say it ALL in a great, big NUTshell.
Again, you can not deal with the facts (or lack there of) and have to rely on name calling and change the subject to something you consider "humorous."
Nice try, but no cigar.
Please come back when you have something of substance to contribute.
Thanks.
This is hilarious. Guess LB(aka Honey Pie to me) is not the only one who has a brain on here. Way to go anon.
Great job of censorship.
THE POLITICALLY CORRECT ELITIST LEFTWING LIBERAL HANDBOOK
Our Hallowed Sixty-Six Commandments
1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can’t teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth’s climate, and more affected by soccer moms driving SUVs.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being lesbian is natural.
7. You have to be against capital punishment for criminals, even murderers, but support abortion on demand.
8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression, and governments create prosperity. As a true Elitist Leftwing Liberal you have to believe that no Americans ever lost their jobs or became homeless except during the Reagan and Bush Administrations; these are problems that can be solved only by lotsa money and Liberals in the federal government.
9. You have to believe that hunters don’t care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe that the military, not politicians, start wars.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee and Thomas Edison are.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas, preferential treatment and set-asides are not racist.
16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal, and really a very nice person.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism and communism haven’t worked anywhere it’s been tried, is because the right people haven’t been in charge. You must also vociferously deny the fact that “Nazi” is an abbreviation for Adolf Hitler’s Nationalsozialist party, because Hitler makes socialism look bad, unlike humanitarian socialists like Josef Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein and a host of other socialists who raped, tortured, maimed and slaughtered their own people in the name of political and economic advancement for the plight of the downtrodden.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a draft-dodging liar and sex offender belonged in the White House.
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites and bestiality as well as organizations such as NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) and other groups that promote pedophilia should be constitutionally protected, but symbols such as the Cross, the Star of David and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese government is somehow in the best interests of the United States.
21. You have to refuse to discuss the issues in a rational manner and whenever someone attempts to do so, throw a 3 ring tantrum, rant and rave, go into a lunatic rage and outshout them (preferably with profanity and name-calling) and stick to personal slurs, smear tactics, slander and building strawmen so you can knock down the strawmen (oops, sorry, strawpersons) and hopefully sidetrack the conversation away from your lack of ability to support your positions or refute the arguments of others. When you can’t think of anything plausible to say, and name-calling and personal slurs are no longer working because people with IQs above ginger snaps can see right through such childish tactics, an especially effective prepubescent ploy that will at least convince other Elitist Leftwing Liberals, is to claim your adversaries hate America, or if you’re on the cowardly side, indignantly ask them why they hate America even though it’s obvious that its the Elitist Leftwing Liberals who hate America and Americans. Uncles Lenin and Stalin always urged us to accuse our adversaries of the very things we’re trying to hide. If you repeat this enough times, Elitist Leftwing Liberals will be offering awards - they may not be candy bars, but, you will be sure to win some snickers.
22. You must always ignore the message and attack the messenger. When stuck, remember the tactic that won’t reveal to other Elitist Leftwing Liberals your unwillingness to rebut the issue under discussion or your inability to think or say anything original: smugly change a couple of your adversaries’ words, parrot and repeat their comments back to them verbatim and even if it isn’t true, by all means always be sure to accuse your opponents of using the very tactics the Elitist Leftwing Liberals try to hide, remembering all the while that Unca Lenin would be proud as punch.
23. No matter how credible a source may be - always do your Elitist Leftwing Liberal duty and rabidly claim it’s been debunked and discredited and call anyone who believes it “mean spirited”, crazy, a Nazi or any other of the monikers from the Elitist Leftwing Liberal grab bag of infantile epithets and sarcastic sobriquets even if you invented your “data” out of thin air or found it on the webpage of some Elitist Leftwing Liberal lemming on the lunatic fringe. See Article #27 for the suggested politically correct buzzwords to use in your tantrums.
24. Whenever demonstrated facts don’t agree with your agenda, twist them and mangle them until you can make them fit into your prejudices, the media will assist you greatly.
25. Once you’ve told a lie or slandered someone, be sure to repeat it as often as possible until it becomes true. “Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi or anti-Semitic …. The association will, after enough repetition, become “fact” in the public mind.” [ ~ Communist Party, Moscow Central Committee, 1943]
26. You have to believe that all spirituality and all religions except Islam are bad.
27. You must use the following buzzwords as often as possible without necessarily knowing their definitions: “Nazi”, “Hitler”, “gestapo”, “police state”, “police brutality”, “totalitarian state”, “imperialism”, “imperialist”, “running dogs of [fill in the blank], “greedy corporations”, “shrub”, “fascist”, “paranoid”, “paranoia”, “goosestepping”, “ruling-class”, “class-strife”, “class warfare”, “stolen election”, “unconstitutional”, “racist”, “entitlements”, “hate”, “bourgeois” or better yet, “petty bourgeois”, “counter-revolutionary”, “progressive”, “red-baiter”, “witch hunt”, “inquisition”, “anti-Communist”, “deviationist”, “revisionist”, “reactionary”, “multiculturalism”, “oppressed”, “unilateral”, “victims of Yankee oppression”, “plight of the [fill in the blank] people”, “victimhood”, “mean-spirited”, “McCarthyism”, “jingoism”, “flag-wavers”, “neocons”, “alternative(s)”, “empowered” and, of course, overuse of the indispensable “F” word.
28. You have to believe that there were never any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, even though they were used against Iran, the Kurds and the Iraqi people and even though the many Democrats warned us about WMD before the Iraqi invasion: William Jefferson Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Sandy Berger, Madeline Albright, Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, Robert Byrd, Jay Rockefeller, John Kerry, Bob Graham, Ted Kennedy, Representatives Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman and vice-president Al Gore to name only the most vociferous.
29. You have to be a purveyor of perennial pessimism and a dispatcher of doomsday gloom and hyperbolic hysteria whenever you can work some scare tactics into the foreboding warnings of eventual catastrophe at the hands of your adversaries, i.e. people who disagree with you.
30. Whenever possible, if you hear or read something that seems quite logical and might influence someone against the Elitist Leftwing Liberal viewpoint, be sure to pounce on the exception or some tiny, inconsequential irrelevancy, such as the misspelling, poor punctuation or mispronunciation of a word, unusual facial expression, article of clothing or some morsel of arcane trivia or irrelevant minutiae in an attempt to derail the conversation into petty bickering replete with name-calling and personal slurs. [Use of the “F” word is particularly effective, especially when combined with prepubescent profanity and puerile posturing.]
31. Always have unkind and accusatory slurs cocked and ready to use regarding any armed forces personnel, especially military people in harm’s way other than your own candidates, sell-outs, turncoats, traitors and those who are guilty of or advocate treason. The exception, of course, would be soldiers killed or wounded when a Republican is president - then take an indignant stance and shriek hysterically at the tragedy - don’t worry other Elitist Leftwing Liberals will realize your disdain for military people who are characterized favorably when you think it will make conservatives look bad in the eyes of Elitist Leftwing Liberals, the lunatic fringe and the politically illiterate.
32. When your adversary presents a particularly damning discovery, pervert it, twist it around, fabricate something out of thin air and accuse him of something he didn’t say, falsely attribute your invention to him and then proceed to argue against your own creation with the hope nobody will notice. This is best done by beginning your remarks with “Translation:”, “hence”, or “in other words” or “so what you are suggesting” or “are you saying that…” followed by the most implausible, irrelevant non sequiturs you can fantasize.
33. You have to remember that nobody but your adversaries, real or imagined are ever to blame for anything and no one should ever be accountable or held responsible for their words or actions - they’re just misunderstood or some such sociological mumbo-jumbo. Blaming without offering solutions is the typical modus operandi of Elitist Leftwing Liberals.
34. Remember our venerated motto: Victimhood is a veritable virtue! You have to be a victim of as many forms of melodrama as possible and be ever vigilant to promote victimization of almost anything and anyone although that’s very difficult to reconcile with the assertion that nobody’s to blame for anything they do, except, of course, the people who don’t agree with you. Whenever you get confused, remember the Double Standard will always come to your rescue when it’s difficult to justify victimhood to people who are rational.
35. You must always have Double Standards, a higher standard that you demand of nations, corporations and individuals you don’t like and especially people who don’t agree with you - and another set of standards for yourself and your Elitist Leftwing Liberal confederates which is preferably no standards at all.
36. You must with all your heart and soul hate America and Americans and bash them at every opportunity, while claiming you love America though you contend that American patriots are really traitors. And do remember to accuse people who don’t agree with you of being the ones who hate America and Americans. This won’t confuse people with IQs above eggplants, but remember some of our best friends are about as intellectually astute as ashtrays. While Elitist Leftwing Liberals hate red-blooded Americans, remember we have blood also and it’s always “B Negative”.
37. You must always remember that you are a member of the grown up 4-H and it is incumbent on you to always display their watchwords: hallucinations, hyperbole, hysteria and hate.
38. Remember to claim that the flag is only a piece of cloth and stands for nothing while you explain how you love America and that’s why you howl and hurl hateful epithets regarding America and Americans, especially those who disagree with you.
39. You are always to belittle and deride concepts such as optimism, patriotism, honor, honesty, faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty, courage, bravery, principles, trust, trustworthiness, reliability, responsibility, respect, common-courtesy, common decency, kindness, Good Samaritanism, sacrifice, patience, fortitude, values, integrity and character as being naive and passe. Call anyone who uses those words, “judgemental” and “intolerant”.
40. You are encouraged to lionize, venerate, yea, worship sloth, lust, self-centeredness, selfishness, instant gratification, slander, criminal behavior, drug addiction, degenerate behavior, promiscuous sex, lewd remarks and behavior, rudeness, crudeness, crassness, smutty language, vulgarity of all kinds, disrespect for authority, laws, law enforcement and military while showing respect for prostitution, drug dealing, gang-bangers, organized crime, pornography and generally everything that would aid in tearing down the social fabric of the United States of America and all she stands for.
41. Be sure to exhibit incessant anger at America and Americans in general and rage at conservatives, centrists and anyone who doesn’t agree with your ideas.
42. You must be “politically correct” when it suits your purpose and point out that political correctness is a form of freedom rather than more mind-control, but, it’s more important to demand that others be “politically correct” than actually follow those demands yourself.
43. You must always offer praise and/or excuses for all of America’s enemies, especially terrorists who aren’t really murdering cowards, but, rather multiculturally misunderstood.
44. You have to believe that just because your candidate lost an election (by all means stomp and shout “election fraud” or “stolen election”) or an unacceptable law was passed there’s always the possibility of going to court where an Elitist Leftwing Liberal judge is presiding so that you can get your way in spite of the wishes of the electorate and those of their congressional delegates as elections and legislation are more effectively decided by certain judges and their courts than by the voters and their legislatures. But, be sure to stress that you believe in the Constitution and remember to always claim that the candidate, election or law you don’t like is unconstitutional. In fact, for argumentation purposes, it’s always a good idea to claim that any law or action that doesn’t please you is unconstitutional as it’s an excellent buzzword and makes you sound like you might know something esoteric. After all, guys like Noam Chomsky and Alan Dershowitz made a career of such tactics.
45. Whenever someone says something that rubs your prejudgements the wrong way, ignore the contents of the remarks and vilify, defame, malign and slander that person while claiming everything that person has ever said or will ever utter is wrong. You are encouraged to take cheap shots and engage in name-calling and ad hominem attacks, but, above all, if you’re a true standard-bearer for the Elitist Leftwing Liberals, avoid discussing issues you can’t debate - which are, of course, all of them.
46. Honor multiculturalism and know its “truths”: “Multiculturalism, n. The doctrine that persons of European ancestry are morally inferior to all other human beings.” ~ John Derbyshire, inspired by Ambrose Bierce and his Devil’s Dictionary.
47. When confronted with something that is critical of Elitist Leftwing Liberals, read or listen to one or two lines and jump to conclusions (it’s the best exercise many Elitist Leftwing Liberals get) that the beginning was awful (meaning it might ask an Elitist Leftwing Liberal to actually think or to look at Elitist Leftwing Liberals in an uncomplimentary light) - and claim you didn’t bother to read the rest or listen to the remainder all the while claiming to be open-minded.
48. You must take it as your sworn duty to do your utmost to prevent people from printing, voicing, writing or otherwise disseminating any communication which is either unfavorable to or not in agreement with Elitist Leftwing Liberal dogma and you must also strictly enforce Political Correctness, while at the same time doing your best to muzzle and silence those who don’t agree with you. Tell adversaries to “Do as I say, and I’ll do as I please!” This is not censorship, hypocrisy or Double Standards, but rather, “Freedom of Speech” an important Constitutional Amendment written to give Elitist Leftwing Liberals their God-given rights, even if they renounce and don’t believe in God and even if they think rights are only for Elitist Leftwing Liberals.
49. If you don’t agree with the points of others, under no circumstances should you present a rational counter argument or discuss the issue itself when it is much more effective to call people liars and cast aspersions on their veracity. This is also effective if a person makes a mistake, don’t overlook or excuse the error or admit there was a possibility of a mistake - call them liars ferociously, unless it’s a petty sideline mistake that will help you construct smoke and mirrors, in that case see Article #30 above.
50. Conservatives suggest that people should “hate the sin, love the sinner”. Remember, as an Elitist Leftwing Liberal you must always hate the sinner [person or corporation who doesn’t agree with you] and love the sin as all sins are “relative” and finding anything wrong with them is “judgemental”. This may be difficult to grasp at first glance since Elitist Leftwing Liberals don’t believe in “sin” [unless it’s being applied via Double Standard, see Article #35, toward corporations or people who don’t agree with Elitist Leftwing Liberals] except for hypocrisy which is the only sin, when applied to our opponents and is one of the most effective slurs in our arsenal. See Article #54
51. You must never be willing to take the consequences of your own actions or words or expect your confederates to do the same as long as you can unjustly lay the blame on someone else. But, of course, it is critical that you demand that people who don’t agree with your ideas be held to strict adherence of taking the consequences of their actions: See Article #35 above regarding nurturing our trademark: Double Standards.
52. When asked to “cite” or give citations, sources or support for your propaganda, you can do one of 4 things: Use secondary sources which supposedly give “expert” Elitist Leftwing Liberal opinion on the primary sources when they’re not ignoring them, taking phrases out of context, twisting their words or perverting their meaning; make an official-looking, bogus website (provided you know someone who knows how to make one and is also literate enough to write without a spell check) with the fake “facts” you’ve presented; refer them to a propaganda site that may or may not support your claims or the third and preferred solution is to give them the URL of an official or universally accepted website and claim vehemently that the so-called information you’ve invented, created or faked is from that website though anyone who looks won’t find it there.
53. Remember, “A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.” ~ G. Gordon Liddy
54. You have to support and promote socialized medicine as “Socialized medicine is based on the belief that, while individual bankruptcy by medical bills is tragic and wicked, bankrupting the entire country is beneficial and noble.” ~ Nicolas Martin [”If you think health care is expensive now, wait ’til you see how much it costs when it’s free.” ~ P. J. O’Rourke]
55. When your adversaries make statements that ring true, seem logical or appear to have merit, ask them completely irrelevant non sequitur questions in an attempt to evade the issue and derail the conversation. If that doesn’t work, announce with all due grandiosity that your opponents refuse to answer your questions or give cites, therefore, they cannot support their assertions. This ploy of course won’t work with people who can think, but, it will bring Elitist Leftwing Liberals and the lunatic fringe out of the woodwork to jump on your bellicose, bungling bandwagon.
56. You must always vociferously and incessantly point out that the reason any conservative’s failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: “Hypocrisy!” Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames us Elitist Leftwing Liberals and, of course, only applies to others because Liberals can always invoke the time-honored Double Standard. Inasmuch as Elitist Leftwing Liberals have no moral principles, we can sit back, march, or otherwise create a ruckus as we criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It’s an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites. Remember, admission that morals and ethics are passe always gets you off the hook - but, do not hesitate to point out the immorality or unethical behavior of people who don’t agree with Elitist Leftwing Liberals.
57. Remember, as a cheerleader for decadence, when any despot, criminal or maniac is treated in any way differently from the way he treated others, it’s your sworn duty to scream to the heavens that he isn’t being treated with dignity and is being embarrassed in spite of the fact he may have raped, tortured, maimed and slaughtered others; as an Elitist Leftwing Liberal you must remain silent about the victims of despots, criminals and maniacs. The victims got what they deserved and despots, criminals and maniacs are to be honored, lionized, venerated and if they’re bad enough, worshipped.
58. As an Elitist Leftwing Liberal, you must believe that all America foreign policy must have the unanimous approval of France, Russia, Syria, Cuba, North Korea, Communist China and the United Nations.
59. You must learn to be agile at pulling the old Elitist Leftwing Liberal Switcheroo. Naturally in normal discourse, you must incessantly and nauseatingly bash your country, slur and slander the founding fathers and American istitutions like the police, FBI, CIA, etc., calling them terrorists and murderers, disparage all religions except Islam, denounce all military institutions and personnel, chide all people who have moral convictions and on and on [See articles 1-58]; but, remember, when trying to win a petty bickering match, employ the Elitist Leftwing Liberal Switcheroo - which means dropping your old mantras and bromides and immediately feigning to embrace your opponents’ views momentarily while you don the mask of reverence for those you hate, but are aware that your adversaries admire. This is particularly effective when showing mock concern for American armed services personnel who are in harms’ way under an administration that doesn’t have Elitist Leftwing Liberal Lemming approval. If you are successful enough in public discourse and if you exhibit it with enough ferocity and frequency, you may be eligible to win a toaster from The Elitist Leftwing Liberal Liberty Lobby.
60. As an Elitist Leftwing Liberal, you must be like a feminist bookstore in that you have no humor department, therefore display no sense of humor while making zero effort to distinguish between serious commentary and obvious humor, satire, and sarcasm. It helps clarify the profile of Elitist Leftwing Liberals.
61. As an Elitist Leftwing Liberal, you must shout “Hypocrite” and “Hypocrisy” whenever your fantasies indicate that an adversary accepts the entirety of a political party, political administration or political philosophy. If the person purports to have any disagreements with that political party, political administration or political philosophy, maliciously call them “Hypocrites” while foaming at the mouth, gnashing your teeth, beating your breasts and tearing your hair. It’s the Elitist Leftwing Liberal Catch-22 where you are going to brand them “Hypocrites” no matter what they say or do. After all, “Hypocrite” is our favorite word and the only sin we recognize - in others, of course.
62. You must always be conscious of Political Correctness. “‘You’re not allowed to call them dinosaurs anymore.’ said Yo-less. ‘It’s speciesist. You have to call them pre-petroleum persons.’” ~ Terry Pratchett
63. Remember, one of the Elitist Leftwing Liberal hallmarks is to try to instill fear and use whatever scare tactics are available. This in conjunction with doomsday prophecies, perennial pessimism and hopelessness, real or imagined, will hopefully amplify the fear in others. “Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.” ~ Bertrand Russell
64. Whenever someone offers documentation or legal proof, one effective method of obfuscation is to claim the documents, certificates, court orders or whatever were forged, fraudulent, fake or fudged. The same thing can be done when someone offers proof of candidates’ popularity because they were elected to office - you can merely spare the gore and claim the election was rigged and the rightful candidate was robbed. Remember Uncle Joe’s Maxim: “Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.” ~ Josef Stalin
Poor Uncle Joe didn’t know about using the courts to circumvent legislation and elections.
65. You must always insist that the _Holy Bible_ must never be read in schools - even by students who get free condoms (though it can be burned) but, it’s acceptable reading in penitentiaries and people testifying in court must swear on the _Holy Bible_, but, the _Bible’s_ “Ten Commandments” cannot be displayed at the courthouse by court order.
66. You, as an Elitist Leftwing Liberal, have to believe that all of the above is part of a vast right wing conspiracy.
Remember that in order for us to coerce loyalty we must levy severe warning that failure to adhere strictly to the demands presented in this consecrated manifesto is considered HERESY and could result in your not receiving invitations to important Elitist Leftwing Liberal functions such as homosexual marriages, ritual flag burnings, tossing medals (yours or anyone else’s) onto the White House lawn or marching in “Free Saddam Hussein” protest rallies wearing official footwear: John Kerry Flip-Flops.
STAY LEFT - YOU FOOL! ~ “No amount of money, influence, persuasion or words can possibly paint Elitist Leftwing Liberals in a worse light than they gladly portray themselves!”
Lost your Thorazine again, didn't you, LB? Maybe the nurse can get you a couple to tide you over.
Thanks MS! Our sentiments exactly.
Who cares whether it is LB or anonmyous that is responsible for the 66 lib comandments - it was great. It says it ALL in a great, big NUTshell.
And in typical liberal fashion, since everthing written about them was true and they could dispute any of it, they PROVED they do follow these 66 commandments with their lame responses- note: commandments #30 #49 7.
As is typical for those with mental problems, they only see and hear what their limited brains can perceive.
I did not post the original 66 libtard commandments. If you knew how to use your sitemeter, you'd know that. My "other half" has got the bug and has been doing some posts on here as an anon. Now that censorship is in effect, she has to now log on using my ID. She found the 66 in another post and stuck them up here.
She's a flaming liberal who had Gore/Kerry signs in her yard, but she's got big lollies and lets me play telephone with them, so I'll over look the fact that she is "challenged".
She's one of the friends I've told you all about who thinks you people are nuttier than fruitcakes. And she hates GWB about as much as you do, but at least she's not clinically insane like "Troofers" are.
The only reason I'm on here now is because she thought the Thorazine comment was funny and brought it to my attention.
While posts may show up under my LB ID, it ain't me. I have better things to do than deal with flaming idiots who have absolutely no common sense or logic capacities in their feeble little brains.
Understand this, as far as I'm concerned, you all can GFY's...
The fact that she gives you the "time of day" speaks volumes to her sanity and good judgment. We'll leave it at that.
"she's got big lollies and lets me play telephone with them"
Ewwwww! What the hell's going on here? It sounds like you're in junior high -- for the second time. No wonder the rest of the world thinks Americans are morons! You are!!
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