Saturday, July 21, 2007

Today's MUST SEE TV...The Power of Nightmares!

This BBC documentary should be required viewing for all Americans.

This film explores the origins in the 1940s and 50s of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Middle East, and Neoconservatism in America, parallels between these movements, and their effect on the world today.

"Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created today nightmare vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful.

Chapter 1: "Baby it's Cold Outside"

Chapter 2: "The Phantom Victory"

Chapter 3: "The Shadows in the Cave" (if you only watch one, watch this)


stayhungry said...

A GREAT series, fully documented and very scary. If anyone wants to understand "al Qaeda" and the neo-con agenda, start with the Power of nightmares. The real terrorist threat is in the white house.

Shoes4Industry said...

And no one comments here? Probably the most important post on this site.

If nothing else, watch the last chapter please.


Richard said...

Here's a comment for you: THAT DOCUMENTARY IS BS!.

shoes4industry said...

Richard- did you watch all 3 chapters?
What specifically do you think is off the mark? Where's your proof.

shoes4industry said...

You also might want to check out NO END IN SIGHT, now playing.

Richard said...

You call this documentary proof? Proof of what?

Shoes4Industry said...

Did you watch the videos?

If you did, you will see that the current "War On Terrorism" is an over-blown construct of the neo-con right wing fascists.

Richard said...

S4I: You are a left-wing ultra liberal so, OF COURSE you would believe that the war on terrorism is an over-blown construct of neo-con right wing fascists!

If this is an over-blown construct of our government then why aren't the terrorists (let's just pretend here for a minute they do exist) making tapes telling us how our government is lying to us. Why aren't they telling the threat of terrorism is fake instead of threatening to wipe us off the face of the earth? I would think they would like nothing better than to call George Bush a liar.

Shoes4Industry said...

If this is an over-blown construct of our government then why aren't the terrorists (let's just pretend here for a minute they do exist) making tapes telling us how our government is lying to us. WHAT? are you kidding us? think about what you are purposing.

Shoes4Industry said...

Why aren't they telling the threat of terrorism is fake instead of threatening to wipe us off the face of the earth? I would think they would like nothing better than to call George Bush a liar.

HUH? Obviously you did not WATCH the videos, please do, then comment.

We never said the terrorist threat is "fake" but the response to it is out of proportion the the actual events.

Richard said...

HUH. You don't EVEN believe that TERRORISM exists but now you're saying the government blows THEIR threats out of proportion. WHO'S THREATS (if as you say-THEY don't exist)!!!????

And, I'm not purposing anything.

Shoes4Industry said...

Did you watch the documentaries?

If you did you would understand.

Maybe you should before judging and jumping to conclusions...


Richard said...

S4I: Forget about those documentaries. Are you denying that you have (Many times) stated that the (as you put it) "war on terra" is phony? That the only terrorists are not anywhere but in the White House? That our government trumps up everything to scare us?

I think you need a breath of fresh air. You're making so many contradicting comments you're confusing yourself!

Shoes4Industry said...

No we are not confused, but it looks makeing us look that way, are you marching orders.

We continue to encourage EVERYONE to view the documentaries and come to their own conclusions.

Thank you.

Richard said...

S4I: Why not answer the questions about phony war on terra, government scare tatics and terrorists in the White House? Do you deny you have said that?

Where do you get your marching orders from?

Shoes4Industry said...

Please watch the BBC documentaries, they explain everything in full detail. You might learn something new.


Janet said...

Shoes: Why don't you answer the questions that are directed at you instead of referring to the BBC comentaries. I don't think the BBC would answer those specific questions.

Shoes4Industry said...

The answers are IN THE FILMS! Watch and learn.


Lee said...

Watched the film - googled BBC commentary. Here are some OTHER comments:

"It is bewildering how the new "elite" and "enlightened" mind works at the BBC. In light of the recent events in London, are you now not the least bit embarassed to have conceived such lunacy? Did the Neo-Cons do this too? You are but a shell of what was once a brilliant and informative organization. Dear God how shameful"

"The terrrorist events in London this morning cast a shadow over the self-indulgent narcissim of this series. Freedom loving people of liberal democratic governments can and will differentiate between politicans exploiting the war on teror for political advantage and the despotic pure evil we see at work once again today--perhaps "tele tax" funded BBC documentary markers will someday see the world with similar clarity"

"I'm speechless. Didn't any of you idiots see the twin towers come down? What has to happen in the UK? I suggest you read JFK's thesis: "Why England Slept?" Radical Islam kills and kills and the USA is to blame? What do they put in you drinking water?"

"Thank God there are enough neocons to guarantee your right to watch meaningless tripe like the "power of nightmares." I have served side-by-side with Brits, Canadians and Ausies who understood that there is evil in the world. The BBC, NBC, ABC,CNN are all full of the pampered of our global society who have never had to fact any facet of the real evil humans are capable of. I have nothing but contempt for this type of deluded reationalization."

"God help Europe if America ever stops being her friend or bodyguard. I have never seen such Chamberlain-like blindness. Please, for the sake of your children, pull your heads from the sand and see the real world."

"The problem with this WILDLY DELUDED film of "phantom Menace" is it only makes sense when INCONVENIENT FACTS are EXCLUDED such as the MANY NON-neo-con warning voices PRIOR to 9/11. Pres. Clinton's own terrorism advisors warneddd him that Islamists and Al-Quida were a gatherin, uncountered threat." (This was a very long one not showing all of iit) Concludes with saying: Thus, for a half-dozen reasons and more, this "documentary" falsely claims that Bush is a noe-con toady and that the threat if Islamist terrorism is chimerical. THESE CLAIMS ARE FALSIFIED BY FACTS."

"As for debating the fact of Islamic it what you will...everyday children & adult innocents are blown up and trutally suppressed by ISlamic fanatics in Iraq, but this fact is apparently evidence of NOTHING? The reasons Bush won has more to do with the march of the very forces of deconstruction.. that the fils apparently PRETENDS to address...forces that emanate from the LEFT."

"I have not seen this moronic film. As an American I am sick and tired of the DREAMING LIBERALS WORLDWIDE. You had better WAKE UP and quit you dreaming. Reality is, there is a World Wide Holy War going on. We, the Americans DID NOT START IT. THE TERRORISTS DID, but we, since you spinless others don't have the GUTS to do so, WILL FINISH IT, just like all the other times we have had to save your butts."

"It is frightening that somebody can be praised for making a doc. film arguing that terrorist is not a threat. I beleive that HATE FOR GEORGE BUSH and enevy of U.S. power and success in this world drive the kind of ILLOGICAL THINKING that has resulted in this film and the fawning praise shown for it."

Many, many more comments like the ones above.

Shoes4Industry said...

Are you SURE you watched the films? What we gleaned from them is that there IS a threat of terrorism but the government's response to it is WAY out of proportion to the actual threat. And that they have used fear of terrorism to gut the constitution and abandon civil/human rights.

How can you deny that?

Lee said...

Yes, Shoes I HAVE watched the film and so did those people who made those comments. YES, we HAVE watched the film and DON'T believe it. There are over 3,000 comments about the film and guess what? They all don't agree with your perspective.

Shirley Heezgay said...

Did you go through ALL 3,000 comments, Lee? And they ALL don't agree?


Lee said...

No Shirley, I did not go through all 3,000 comments. But I found at least a dozen immediately that did not buy the "Power of Nightmares". So, I would therefore assume that there are many more comments like those among the 3,000.

I know you must be finding it difficult to believe that not all 3,000 bought the message of "Power of Nightmares."

Shirley Heezgay said...

So you're basing your "fact" on finding .0004% negative comments?

And of course, I'm not finding it hard to believe that not all viewers "bought" it.

I would never presume to be that arrogant.

Oh, and it's not for you to "buy" since you've already been bought and sold by the US "Government."

Lee said...

Just because you don't believe the explanation for 9/11 doesn't mean those that do were bought and sold by the government.

You are the one buying all the theories that question what truly happened on 9/11 and trying your best to selling them to anyone who will listen.

Shirley Heezgay said...

The only thing I've been sold on is the fact that there are WAY too many holes in the 9/11 commission.

I never said the government was involved. I said the government is not sharing ALL the information.

Are you not entitled to have all the information?

"You are the one buying all the theories....trying your best to selling them to anyone who will listen."

By the way, we could say the same.

Oh and was this a Freudian slip:

"Just because you don't believe the explanation for 9/11 doesn't mean those that do..."

Saying you "believe" something you've been told implies that there is some storytelling behind it.

Shouldn't you just ACCEPT the explanation?